Billy the Ex-Bethelite

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  They might be driving me nuts

  by stillin in

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  the "boasting session" last night included forcing the congregation to watch that stupid witnessing cart video.

  then the brother handling the part discusses what a "powerful witness" is being given each time those carts roll out into public view.. experiences: had a nice conversation with a young man.

  a woman took a tract.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  A woman took a tract

  ... to get the gum off her shoe.
  
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  I've just been disfellowshipped!

  by maksutov in

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  apparently it was announced last night.

  i was not informed (for 'legal reasons'), but they phoned my dad and told him.

  i understand it is due to my apostate book.

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  We have a saying where I work, "If it isn't written down, it didn't happen." And in so many ways, that's proven true. While lots of stuff is said at work and instantly forgotten, my history in WTland seemed to be that lots of stuff is said and instantly gets completely twisted in the JW rumormill.

  So someone gets announced at a KH meeting attended by a handful of people. Then the word is supposed to get spread to all the others that had better things to do that night. What was announced? Did they say, "Don't talk to him, because he's disfellowshipped for writing a book exposing WT teachings as wrong"? Why don't they get clear and put it in writing in a public place?

  Oh, right, they don't do that because they're a cult that's afraid of lawsuits.

  Next you can write a book about your experiences upon being expelled from a 19th century apocalyptic lying cult.
  
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  I'm baaaaaack!

  by avishai in

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  how's everyone been?

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Welcome back! Simon has rearranged the furniture around here, so watch where you're going!

  I'm doing great. Got my engineering degree last spring and now have an interesting (and today, exhausting) career making lots of money.
  
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  Elders want to meet with us, help!

  by All for show in

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  2. friends

  my husband is awake,yay!

  we haven't been to meeting since february, although we attended the memorial.

  when jws have called us we say we are amazing, everything is awesome much to their shock.

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  "I thought going to college was frowned upon?" I said. "Not if you learn a trade to make a living" she corrected.

  That's "old light" when you pay attention to what ToMo3 says. And I think it's getting much easier for dubs to not pay attention to things they don't really care to hear from WT. I really think that we exJWs have paid much closer attention to the JW broadcraps than the sheeple do. I think my parents usually fall asleep when they try to watch those snoozefests.
  
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  The multitude that no man can number

  by SonoftheTrinity in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  how can protection from destruction at armageddon be solely with the jehovah's witnesses when the great multitude is one that no man could number while the jehovah's witnesses put great effort into cooking statistics of how many jws there are worldwide?

  the unscriptural scare tactics they use are blatantly insulting to anyone who can read a bible.

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  And then there's the whole story about King David taking a census, consequently thousands of innocent people had to die. As much as WT loves the OT, they should realize that counting things is evil, consequently thousands of innocent people should die for WT's yearbook census reports... well, lets be obvious and state that all the millions of sheeple now living will die eventually.
  
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  "Jehovah's people as a whole can never be corrupted..."

  by cappytan in

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  2. beliefs

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zgds4z-h2i.

  transcript below (with key points of interest bolded):.

  please open your bibles to phil.

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  But, today, we’re living in a time where Jehovah’s people as a whole can never be corrupted.

  So what does that mean? It's 99.9% corrupted, but that's okay?

  This from the men who brought you the illustration: If you were offered a glass of water and you were promised that there was only a little poison in it, would you drink it?

  So the sheeple are expected to donate money to an organization that has no transparency of exactly how and where the finances go, there is no auditing, and the only consolation is that the organization as a whole isn't completely corrupt? Then this organization would condemn a group of children celebrating a birthday because there were 2 birthday parties centuries ago that they would consider "corrupt" examples?
  
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  "Your good example is much needed for the young ones the congregation."

  by Yondaime in

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  2. experiences

  hey guys n gals, sorry its been such a long time since i've posted.

  lately i've been very busy balancing between my school work and cult activities.

  since i've been doing pretty well "spiritually"(enough field-circus hours, attending meetings, underlining my literatrash, reading, praying and serving as the mic-master) my coordinator grabbed me to the side after a meeting and talked to me for twenty minutes straight congratulating me about how good i am doing.. then he paused for a good five seconds and got all serious.. then he proceeded to tell me that the young ones in the hall aren't doing too well.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Yeah, that's some crazy pressure to put on a kid, like you're "a pillar" who's somehow supposed to help fix things for the elduhs. Where was Jehovah in preventing these bad things from happening? Was he snoozing or in the privy? Were all the angels too busy flying around JW litteratrash trolleys to come and help the "youthz" in your congregation stay on the straight and narrow?
  

  If you're looking to fade, this situation gives you some useful facts:

  • When I was a kid and bad stuff like that happened in a hall, the rumor was "they've mourned Jehovah's spirit" or "Jehovah's spirit isn't with that congregation". There is no guarantee in the JWs that your congregation will be a "spiritual paradise". And the local KH can become an embarrassment in the community when "worldly people" find out that there are bad JWs.
  • Just because someone is a JW, it doesn't mean they are a good person and should be trusted. Actually, I used to be surprised and disappointed at how dramas and experiences would have other JW kids as the troublemaker villains leading the protagonists away from da troof. I really felt there was a huge mistrust and suspicion of kids at the hall that weren't all 100% goody-goody. So, any less than exemplary kids at the hall can easily be labeled "bad association." Ironically, there were a lot of those "exemplary kids" at the hall that were found out to be living "double lives". So really, the exemplary kids at the hall are also possibly "bad association." Talk about a network of suspicion.
    
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  Elders want to meet with us, help!

  by All for show in

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  2. friends

  my husband is awake,yay!

  we haven't been to meeting since february, although we attended the memorial.

  when jws have called us we say we are amazing, everything is awesome much to their shock.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  He says shouldn't they apply Matthew and make the parents come talk to us?

  He sounds like a "smart guy"! See what education will do to you!

  That was one of the details I exploited for my fade. When I was removed as an elder, the BoE told me that there were certain accusations against me and that I'd stumbled others. Yet when I asked who they were and why they hadn't applied the scriptures and come and spoken to me, I didn't get an answer because they were lying. They're the type of elders that are driven my their own self-importance and ignorance.

  The idea of making this a huge deal in our family and a fade may work out well.

  In reference to that broadcast, I made it clear to my parents that as a university graduate, I found the things stated to be very negatively biased. I'm making significantly more money, but it isn't just the money. I'm much more intelligent, but I don't think it's made me "proud" or any different. And one of the big things is that my degree won't be taken away from me. It will always have value. I'll be an alumni the rest of my life. In stark contrast, I spent many more years as a pioneer, bethelite, and elder, yet the value of all of that disappeared the moment I left bethel and when I was removed as an elder.

  So when the WT broadcast crows about the supposed value of pioneering and the wastefulness of attending university, it's something I can't agree with. Is this really what JWs believe, that university degrees are meaningless waste? Then the next time they get seriously ill or are in an accident... call a pioneer instead of going to see a doctor! Instead of driving around in a car designed by engineers, have the morning group for field service build one for you! And in that broadcast, if the GB are now saying that bethel wouldn't send anyone to university for a law degree, why are they still using university trained brothers and sisters in the legal department? Why have they sent out letters trying to recruit degreed JWs? Can't they just select any pioneer, send them to court to defend WT lawsuits? Or does the GB rely on degrees more than they rely on jehovah?
  
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  4 New BOEs just Arrived!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  4 boes just arrived and we appreciate our informants assistance... click the links below and then click the green download button.. .. 2015 april 6, boe (re: electronic convention program and convention releases).

  .. http://wwwb.fileflyer.com/view/gqk7qat.

  .. .. .. 2015 april 21, boe (re: programme for special meeting with headquarters representatives).

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  I think that WT statement requires one of those stupid soliloquies that they have brothers perform as thought control demonstrations at crapventions"
  

  [Brother reads aloud, to himself] "You must not have viewed any type of pornography within the past two years." [Pauses momentarily, then begins self-examination] Well, I guess I better check my pornography calendar. [Pulls out stack of last 20 years of calendars.] Hmmm, unfortunately, it's only been 1 year, 7 months, and 14 days since I last 'viewed any type of pornography'. Aw shoot, I just realized that these pornography calendars feature naked pictures. Sigh, well, I better reset the counter to zero days since last viewing porn... well, as long as I'm looking, I may as well make it count! [Brother leaves stage]
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  What I Learned Today

  by OneFingerSalute in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just thought i would share what i learned today sitting for several miserable hours at the circus assembly.. while i took "notes" i just cannot stand trying to type out all the details.

  so suffice it to say the entire program can be covered with these few observations.. do more!

  give more!

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Thanks for the concise summary.

  You may have had several miserable hours at the circus assembly, but look on the bright side... I've been enjoying a wonderful Sunday doing whatever the hell I want!